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come to order now that we took care of 

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the housekeeping first and foremost , I 

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wish you all a good new year and hope 

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that your families are are doing well 

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and that they are safe from Covid . 

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What we're going to do this morning is 

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we're going to receive testimony on the 

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impact of the continuing resolution in 

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the Department of Defense and Services . 

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want to thank you all for attending and 

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today because he is attending General 

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or scenarios Interment today . General 

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General martin . I want to thank you 

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government once again is operating 

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under a continuing resolution today's 

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on our national security , Particularly 

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the problem that would be created by a 

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year long cr for fiscal 2022 . 

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year bill , um , even the the 

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year over year total remains the same . 

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hundreds of specific activities that 

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under a CR . None of this occurs . We 

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do not cut spending in areas where it's 

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no longer needed . Like sunsetting 

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legacy pop platforms or inefficient 

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programs that are no longer survivable 

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in a high end fight , simply put CRS 

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are bad for our national security . The 

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increase in efficiency , they waste 

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taxpayers money . They also signal to 

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our troops and the millions of workers 

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in the defense industry that their 

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needs are just not a priority at a time 

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when Putin is threatening to invade 

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Ukraine china continues to be a pacing 

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threat . We do not have time to waste . 

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more CRS Now among the members of this 

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you all wants a new fiscal year 

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2022 defense bill . But I have to tell 

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you it is frustrating to read quotes 

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december and I'm going to quote 

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directly . Republicans should be in 

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favor of a CR until biden is out of 

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office . It would be the proper 

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republican thing to do and everybody is 

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saying otherwise is foolish . Well , 

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that type of thinking . That's what's 

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foolish and I believe it's dangerous . 

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least we can do is to get funding bills 

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negotiating table so we can fund the 

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because America's national security is 

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more than just about dollars that we 

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provide the pentagon , it's part of the 

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reason why we're having the Syrian . We 

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investments in diplomacy , development 

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abroad and most importantly education , 

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health and America's economy here at 

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home . They all impact our national 

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security . So today I look forward from 

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hearing to our witnesses about how a 

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full year Cr could affect modernization 

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programs and how it would be an 

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inefficient use of taxpayers dollars by 

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directing billions of dollars to 

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purposes that are out of date . Such as 

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a war in Afghanistan which were no 

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longer fighting . We have a lot to 

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cover . And so now I will turn to the 

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gentleman from California , um the 

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ranking member Mr calvert for his 

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thank you Madam . Chairman and happy 

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new Year and I also want to recognize 

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general or dinero . Not only was he a 

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great patriot , a good friend of this 

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committee and we certainly thank him 

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and his family for his lifetime of 

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service . Um I want to thank all the 

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witnesses for being here today . While 

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senior leaders here today , I'm 

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disappointed there's a need to have 

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this here . Since I've joined the 

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subcommittee . I've been very vocal 

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about the damage done by our inability 

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to pass defensive Corporation bills on 

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time when we're able to carry out the 

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most when we're able to unable to carry 

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out the most fundamental constitutional 

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responsibility to create self inflicted 

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wounds that are difficult to recover 

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from . Typically as appropriators were 

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able to negotiate in good faith breach 

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a bipartisan deal . Unfortunately my 

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friends on the other side of the aisle 

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the progressive wing of their party 

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this country . We have offered to start 

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negotiations as long as we work under 

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the same terms , negotiations that we 

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retain all legacy . Later writers , 

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us to support these bills , domestic 

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spending must come down and defense 

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noted that the has sask and the Senate 

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appropriations all have agreed to a 

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higher defense number . This committee 

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is the long polling . It is 

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disappointing to watch the majority try 

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has failed them . May I remind people 

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that Democrats were unable to pass 

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their version of the fiscal 2022 

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house floor and today under the guise 

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of caring for our men and women in 

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uniform , they're attempting to use the 

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Department of Defense as it means to an 

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end with the hopes of passing radical 

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irresponsible policies that will harm 

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the american people . It's disingenuous 

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tradition of bipartisan cooperation 

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that has made this committee especially 

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this subcommittee specifically so 

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effective , excessive spending on the 

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domestic bills is irresponsible and 

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will dangerously add to our national 

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debt which former Chairman of the Joint 

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Chiefs , Admiral Obama called top 

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threat to our national security . These 

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increases are also in addition to the 

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massive spending spree that the biden 

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administration and this Congress have 

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massive inflation . As a matter of fact , 

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the number came out this morning , 7% 

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inflation this year , the highest 

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number In almost 40 years , which is 

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harming american families and certainly 

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drastically harming bot zone buying 

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power when your account for covid 

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spending when you account for covid 

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spending the national security . The 

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of our spending goes towards domestic 

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programs . As a ranking member of the 

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subcommittee . I've remained firm in my 

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resolve that we will fight to ensure 

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proper funding for the Department of 

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reports that the majority is now 

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considering supporting additional funds 

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Above the president's misguided request 

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for fiscal year 2022 . It's my hope we 

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can avoid devastating impacts of a 

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committees this committee storied 

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reputation of bipartisan common sense 

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governing , I hope will continue . 

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Thank you for your service and I look 

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forward to your testimony and with that 

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I yield back thank you Mr calvert and I 

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certainly know that the words that you 

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said were heartfelt , but I don't think 

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you meant to imply that any of us on 

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this committee from the other side of 

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the aisle are disingenuous . Um I would 

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now recognize chair to laurel . 

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Thank you very much , Madam Chair . I 

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want to thank you and the ranking 

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member for holding this important 

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hearing on the impact of continuing 

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resolutions and what they have . Um uh 

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the kind of impact they have on the 

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Department of Defense . I first want to 

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just say thank you . Uh and uh 

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Secretary of Defense Austin is not here 

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this morning , but on december 6th he 

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issued a statement about the content of 

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what we're speaking about today and 

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what the uh 

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how what he described uh 

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fiscally unsound way of funding the 

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Department of Defense and Government as 

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a whole . So please convey my thanks to 

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him . I want to say thank you to all of 

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our witnesses today . It was amazing to 

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me and reading through the testimony of 

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of the consistency a message 

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uh hear about um what in 

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fact occurs when we 

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engage in continuing resolutions if I 

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might and I don't mean to slight the 

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others . But General Brown uh thank you 

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for your your your your authorship of 

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the book , accelerate change or lose 

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that . We must change so that we do not 

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um go backward . The time for us has 

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come , we need to go faster uh and the 

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and the and the time is now for us to 

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be able to uh to do that . Uh And I 

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appreciate the witnesses and their uh 

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distinguished leaders of the military 

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coming to explain the consequences of 

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what are , quite frankly Congress's 

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failures , Madam Chair 

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I uh you and I have worked closely for 

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months to an active defense 

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appropriations bill for fiscal year 

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2022 . Um But while um and 

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I I too would agree with you that the 

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members of this subcommittee are 

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committed to um a moving forward 

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on the defense appropriations bill . 

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But while the democrats are ready to 

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negotiate and complete our work , a 

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number of our republican colleagues um 

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have that they have not even uh 

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leadership hasn't even offered a 

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proposal of their own . And just I have 

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to say this , I I wasn't going to . But 

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uh just to clarify the record , the 

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fact of the matter is in the history of 

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appropriations uh bills , the 

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issues on uh whether you call them 

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policy writers or poison pills or 

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legacy writers , whatever you want to 

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call them , that has been debated at 

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the end of the process that there has 

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been the willingness on the part of 

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democrats and republicans to come 

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together and say , let us talk about 

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the top line , let us move 

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programmatically because in order to 

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achieve a bicameral bipartisan piece of 

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legislation , those issues will be um 

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uh will have to be resolved . So the 

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fact that of who is uh it's not a 

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question of pointing fingers , but the 

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democratic proposals are out there to 

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date . There has not been one single 

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document that outlines where our 

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republican colleagues want to go . 

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President Kennedy once said there are 

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risks and costs two action , but they 

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are far less than the long range risks 

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of comfortable inaction . We need 

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action on full year spending bills , 

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funding bills . Now , the longer our 

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colleagues get comfortable in their 

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inaction , the greater the long range 

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risks will be for our nation . And as 

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you are Madam Chair on particularly 

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alarmed by the suggestion of some that 

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they would prefer to fund the 

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government under a full year continuing 

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resolution . This would harm our 

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military stalling modernization efforts , 

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readiness capacity , recruitment , 

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operation and maintenance , impacting 

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pay for our troops and wasting billions 

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in taxpayer dollars On capabilities . 

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We no longer need . After 20 years of 

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war in Afghanistan have ended . We need 

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to prepare for the security challenges 

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of the future by modernizing weapons 

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systems such as strengthening our 

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hypersonic weapons and artificial 

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intelligence capabilities . A 

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continuing resolution was severely 

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curtailed . The transition to these 

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modern high quality tools . Readiness 

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is essential to the strength of our 

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military . But as the testimony from 

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our witnesses affirm extended CRS full 

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year CR would greatly impact our troops , 

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their quality of life , their health 

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care Under a continuing resolution , 

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services would have to significantly 

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curtail other personnel expenses , 

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including potentially slashing the 

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number of new recruits to provide a 

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statutorily authorized pay raise . Um 

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the witnesses in their testimony , they 

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layout as I mentioned earlier , a 

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consistent message that asserts that 

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already there are serious consequences 

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to the four month delay of of of a of a 

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budget agreement . A full year 

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continuing resolution would keep 

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platforms and systems that are no 

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longer necessary in service While 

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blocking the start of new projects , it 

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would reduce the buying power of the 

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Defense Department locked the pentagon 

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into last year's spending such as for a 

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war in Afghanistan , we are no longer 

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fighting . There are a few dollars more 

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egregious aways to waste the americans 

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of people's hard earned tax dials . 

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Finally , I'm deeply concerned about 

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the impact of a full year cr on the 

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millions of jobs in the defense 

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industry sustains across the United 

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States . And I ask unanimous consent to 

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insert into a record into the record a 

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letter From 11 Defense Trade 

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Associations which puts the harmful 

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consequences of a full year cr in stark 

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terms . And I quote , defense industry 

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workforces are subject to seemingly 

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endless stop and start contract cycles , 

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creating inefficiency and disruption 

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that ripples through the defense supply 

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chain with disproportionate effects on 

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smaller companies . End quote , the 

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consequences of a four year cr are 

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simply unthinkable to protect our 

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national security sustained american 

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strength , vis a vis china and Russia 

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and further american leadership around 

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the world . We need a government 

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funding agreement , we need it now and 

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it is time for our republican 

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colleagues to join us negotiate a 

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bipartisan bicameral funding agreement . 

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I thank you madam . Chair for holding 

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this hearing and I thank our witnesses 

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once again and I won't deal with the 

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quote now because I've already gone 

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over my time , but I'm hopeful that 

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uh Assistant Defense Secretary 

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Mark Bortz um we'll speak about um 

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uh this issue . He has a great quote in 

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his um in his testimony about 

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our competition with Russia and china 

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and what they do um in terms of being 

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competitive and what we do not do . I 

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say thank you , thank you to my 

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colleagues Um uh for being here this 

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morning and I yield back thank you 

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chair to Laura Laura , you had you said 

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11 , right 11 letters to enter for the 

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record . No one letter that has been 

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signed by 11 heads of the Trade 

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Association Aerospace Air Force . I 

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just wanted to make sure I said the 

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amount of letters correctly . So 

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without objection , we will be entering 

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that letter into the record . Thank you . 

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Now I turn to um ranking member Granger 

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from texas for her opening remarks . MS 

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Granger gonna speak now . Thank you . 

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Chairman Mccollum um is a longtime 

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member and a former chair of the 

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subcommittee . I've been proud of its 

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history of bipartisanship . The members 

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of this subcommittee cared deeply about 

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our national security that have been 

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able to put partisan politics aside in 

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order to ensure we provide the funding 

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needed to protect our great nation . 

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Unfortunately , the defense 

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appropriation bill has fallen victim to 

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partisan politics . I think we would 

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all agree that no one here wants a 

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continuing resolution . No one that's 

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not our goal . However , republicans 

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will not allow the majority to ram 

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through irresponsible spending and 

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harmful policies and other parts of the 

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government by using the Department of 

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Defense as a political weapon . My 

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position should not come as a surprise 

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to anyone during full committee and 

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subcommittee markups . I made it clear 

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that House republicans would not 

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support any bills unless the majority 

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removed poison pills reinstated , 

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longstanding riders and address the 

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disparity between Defense and non 

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defense spending those through three 

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issues have been for the past two years 

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as a part of this , but instead of 

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working across the aisle to get our 

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work done , majority drafted 

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unrealistic irresponsible 

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appropriations bills , many of which 

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can contain the most partisan policies 

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I've seen since I've been in Congress , 

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For example , The FY 22 Labor Health 

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and Human Services Bill Includes a 

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staggering 36% increase over current 

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levels . The majority also removed 

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longstanding bipartisan pro life critic 

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protections that have been included for 

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decades . The list goes on and on 

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as appropriators . We know it takes 

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bipartisan cooperation to craft 

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spending bills that will be signed into 

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law counter to what the majority has 

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said . Republicans are ready and 

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willing to negotiate . We simply ask 

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that the majority agreed to the same 

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terms that have allowed us to complete 

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our work quickly in the past . Drop 

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controversial language and restore 

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longstanding provision . If majority 

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would agree to these terms , I will 

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clear my schedule and I'm happy to 

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begin negotiations immediately 

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following this hearing , madam Chair . 

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I yield back . 

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Thank you . The bottom line is people 

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need to get to the table and talk to 

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each other and uh , that that that is 

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leadership in both the House and the 

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Senate . Um , so I'm going to turn to 

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our witnesses now and I we don't pick 

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favorites . I don't pick favorites , 

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especially on my side of the family 

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when my father was army air corps , I 

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never picked a favorite between the two 

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of them . So we're gonna start with the 

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service Chiefs were gonna go in 

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alphabetical order then followed by the 

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vice chief martin and McCartney . 

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Uh your full statements are going to be 

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entered into the record so I ask you to 

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limit your remarks to no more than five 

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minutes under Secretary McCord . You 

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are first 

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ah and also chair to Laura and ranking 

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member Granger . Thank you Members of 

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the committee . I appreciate the 

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opportunity to speak with you today 

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along with our leaders from the 

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services on the importance of getting 

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full year appropriations . Rather than 

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seeing continued extensions of the 

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current continuing resolution or CR in 

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particular , I want to express our 

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concerns about the potential for a full 

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year CR which is something the 

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department has never been forced to 

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operate under Our military leaders are 

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going to speak in more detail about 

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specifics impacts on their services and 

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their people . But let me begin with 

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some points that are of concern across 

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the department to amplify the point . 

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Secretary Austin made in his statement 

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of December 6 , 2021 , which I would 

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ask the chair that you're allowed to be 

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inserted in the record of this hearing . 

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Also without objection , thank you for 

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your CR chair and members would move us 

553
00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:41,150
in the wrong direction and leave us 

554
00:22:41,150 --> 00:22:43,372
stuck in the wrong place first . If you 

555
00:22:43,372 --> 00:22:45,594
want us to be more competitive with her 

556
00:22:45,594 --> 00:22:47,594
adversaries , it's going to make us 

557
00:22:47,594 --> 00:22:47,560
less . So if you want us to be more 

558
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,727
agile , a CR has the opposite effect . 

559
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,487
It would undermine our your support of 

560
00:22:52,487 --> 00:22:54,653
our men and women in uniform and their 

561
00:22:54,653 --> 00:22:56,720
families . Finally , congress in 

562
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,810
passing the recently enacted fy 22 

563
00:22:58,810 --> 00:23:00,921
defense authorization bill was voting 

564
00:23:00,921 --> 00:23:03,410
in part to increased bot funding . If 

565
00:23:03,410 --> 00:23:05,577
that is what Congress wants . Enacting 

566
00:23:05,577 --> 00:23:07,743
a full year CR would send our top line 

567
00:23:07,743 --> 00:23:10,350
down not up let me now briefly expand 

568
00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:12,900
on a few of these concerns First . As I 

569
00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,067
believe you are all aware of full year 

570
00:23:15,067 --> 00:23:17,289
cr would reduce our funding level below 

571
00:23:17,289 --> 00:23:19,400
what we requested and what we believe 

572
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,067
we need on the surface at the 

573
00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:22,956
department level as a whole . The 

574
00:23:22,956 --> 00:23:22,650
reduction to our accounts would appear 

575
00:23:22,650 --> 00:23:24,706
to be about $8 billion dollars below 

576
00:23:24,706 --> 00:23:26,317
our request . Which would be 

577
00:23:26,317 --> 00:23:28,428
significant even if that was the only 

578
00:23:28,428 --> 00:23:30,261
impact . The actual reduction in 

579
00:23:30,261 --> 00:23:32,372
practice will be much greater because 

580
00:23:32,372 --> 00:23:34,261
we would have significant funding 

581
00:23:34,261 --> 00:23:36,372
that's misaligned , trapped or frozen 

582
00:23:36,372 --> 00:23:38,206
in the wrong places and unusable 

583
00:23:38,206 --> 00:23:38,040
because we don't have the tools or 

584
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,040
flexibility to realign funds on 

585
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,207
anything like the scam . We would need 

586
00:23:42,207 --> 00:23:44,429
to fix all the problems that the Chiefs 

587
00:23:44,429 --> 00:23:46,651
are going to describe to cite one major 

588
00:23:46,651 --> 00:23:48,651
example . Although it's a different 

589
00:23:48,651 --> 00:23:50,707
subcommittee . I know all of you are 

590
00:23:50,707 --> 00:23:52,540
very familiar With the fact that 

591
00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:52,410
virtually all military construction 

592
00:23:52,410 --> 00:23:54,243
projects in each year's budget , 

593
00:23:54,243 --> 00:23:56,760
including the 22 budget are new stars 

594
00:23:57,140 --> 00:23:59,930
that cannot be executed under a Cr In 

595
00:23:59,930 --> 00:24:01,986
this specific case . That's over 100 

596
00:24:01,986 --> 00:24:04,208
projects and over $5 billion dollars in 

597
00:24:04,208 --> 00:24:06,319
funding . That would be unusable . So 

598
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:08,319
that's one example of on top of the 

599
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:10,541
eight billion that it looks like at the 

600
00:24:10,541 --> 00:24:12,597
gross level when you get down in the 

601
00:24:12,597 --> 00:24:14,763
details if you add the impacts of this 

602
00:24:14,763 --> 00:24:16,874
unusable funding to the straight loss 

603
00:24:16,874 --> 00:24:18,930
of purchasing power under a Cr , the 

604
00:24:18,930 --> 00:24:20,874
real impacts on our operations and 

605
00:24:20,874 --> 00:24:22,819
programs will double or triple the 

606
00:24:22,819 --> 00:24:24,874
impact of the cuts as we go into the 

607
00:24:24,874 --> 00:24:26,708
procurement and the research and 

608
00:24:26,708 --> 00:24:28,819
development accounts to calculate all 

609
00:24:28,819 --> 00:24:30,986
the funding tied to individual program 

610
00:24:30,986 --> 00:24:33,041
rate increases or new starts that we 

611
00:24:33,041 --> 00:24:35,097
would not be able to execute leaving 

612
00:24:35,097 --> 00:24:36,930
those funds stranded . Not every 

613
00:24:36,930 --> 00:24:39,152
acquisition program would be restricted 

614
00:24:39,152 --> 00:24:41,374
and impacts would be very uneven . Some 

615
00:24:41,374 --> 00:24:43,263
programs such as the ground based 

616
00:24:43,263 --> 00:24:45,319
strategic deterrent would be delayed 

617
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,486
significantly by the cuts imposed by a 

618
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:47,180
CR . While others , such as the 

619
00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:49,069
procurement of two Virginia class 

620
00:24:49,069 --> 00:24:50,791
submarines might be relatively 

621
00:24:50,791 --> 00:24:52,958
unaffected . The most damaging impacts 

622
00:24:52,958 --> 00:24:55,124
would be on those who deserve at least 

623
00:24:55,124 --> 00:24:57,402
our service members and their families . 

624
00:24:57,402 --> 00:24:57,390
The biggest holes would be in our 

625
00:24:57,390 --> 00:24:59,390
military personnel accounts and our 

626
00:24:59,390 --> 00:25:01,390
training and readiness accounts are 

627
00:25:01,390 --> 00:25:03,390
military personnel accounts will be 

628
00:25:03,390 --> 00:25:07,230
funded $5 billion cr yet inside 

629
00:25:07,230 --> 00:25:09,397
those flat funding levels . As several 

630
00:25:09,397 --> 00:25:11,508
members have noted , we would have to 

631
00:25:11,508 --> 00:25:13,674
absorb the cost of a well deserved pay 

632
00:25:13,674 --> 00:25:15,786
raise and other statutory housing and 

633
00:25:15,786 --> 00:25:15,710
subsistence increases for the troops . 

634
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:18,860
This means that within a flat number 

635
00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:20,890
absorbing a pay raise . We will be 

636
00:25:20,890 --> 00:25:23,057
forced to take action such as delaying 

637
00:25:23,057 --> 00:25:25,001
and suspending permanent change of 

638
00:25:25,001 --> 00:25:26,834
station moves for our people and 

639
00:25:26,834 --> 00:25:28,834
delaying accessions of new troops , 

640
00:25:28,834 --> 00:25:28,670
which would disrupt our training 

641
00:25:28,670 --> 00:25:31,770
pipeline In the operating accounts 

642
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:34,160
where cr would leave us another 5.3 

643
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,382
billion below are requested levels . We 

644
00:25:36,382 --> 00:25:38,438
would almost certainly have to defer 

645
00:25:38,438 --> 00:25:40,660
training and readiness and take greater 

646
00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:42,716
risk in our facilities maintenance . 

647
00:25:42,716 --> 00:25:44,882
Especially if we endeavor to avoid any 

648
00:25:44,882 --> 00:25:44,560
furloughs of our civilian workforce 

649
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,782
because civilian pays a very large part 

650
00:25:46,782 --> 00:25:48,870
of the operating accounts . We also 

651
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:51,148
have an issue with military healthcare . 

652
00:25:51,148 --> 00:25:53,259
This account would be short by over a 

653
00:25:53,259 --> 00:25:55,592
billion dollars compared to our request . 

654
00:25:55,592 --> 00:25:57,703
Yet we have no ability to control the 

655
00:25:57,703 --> 00:25:57,060
demand for healthcare by our 

656
00:25:57,060 --> 00:25:59,410
beneficiaries . Nor would we wish to , 

657
00:25:59,530 --> 00:26:01,419
especially during a pandemic . So 

658
00:26:01,419 --> 00:26:03,586
people show up to the doctor , we have 

659
00:26:03,586 --> 00:26:05,586
to pay that bill . Some might ask , 

660
00:26:05,586 --> 00:26:07,808
well , can't we address these issues by 

661
00:26:07,808 --> 00:26:09,641
reprogramming funds to solve our 

662
00:26:09,641 --> 00:26:11,363
biggest problems . First , the 

663
00:26:11,363 --> 00:26:13,252
committees have never approved of 

664
00:26:13,252 --> 00:26:15,141
reprogramming during a continuing 

665
00:26:15,141 --> 00:26:17,308
resolution . If we get past that issue 

666
00:26:17,308 --> 00:26:19,419
as we would need to under a year long 

667
00:26:19,419 --> 00:26:21,641
cr just to fix one high impact problems 

668
00:26:21,641 --> 00:26:23,863
such as the billion dollar shortfall in 

669
00:26:23,863 --> 00:26:23,750
the ground based strategic deterrent 

670
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:26,260
program would consume 25% of the $4 

671
00:26:26,260 --> 00:26:28,482
billion in transfer authority available 

672
00:26:28,482 --> 00:26:30,704
to me for the entire department for the 

673
00:26:30,704 --> 00:26:32,704
entire year . And yet I would still 

674
00:26:32,704 --> 00:26:34,927
have dozens of other crm posed problems 

675
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,093
to address the idea that being under a 

676
00:26:37,093 --> 00:26:39,204
continuing resolution into january or 

677
00:26:39,204 --> 00:26:41,427
february is not unusual and that a full 

678
00:26:41,427 --> 00:26:43,427
year cr is now considered a serious 

679
00:26:43,427 --> 00:26:45,649
possibility did not come from nowhere . 

680
00:26:45,649 --> 00:26:45,430
And I believe it's important just to 

681
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:47,486
take a moment to step back from this 

682
00:26:47,486 --> 00:26:49,374
current situation and look at the 

683
00:26:49,374 --> 00:26:51,374
broader context . We've been slowly 

684
00:26:51,374 --> 00:26:53,597
boiling this frog for a number of years 

685
00:26:53,597 --> 00:26:55,763
and we may not fully appreciate what's 

686
00:26:55,763 --> 00:26:57,819
been happening For the 20 years that 

687
00:26:57,819 --> 00:27:00,041
followed the end of the Cold War . From 

688
00:27:00,041 --> 00:27:02,097
fiscal years 1991 through 2010 , the 

689
00:27:02,097 --> 00:27:03,930
date of enactment of the defense 

690
00:27:03,930 --> 00:27:05,986
appropriations bill averaged 24 days 

691
00:27:05,986 --> 00:27:07,986
into the fiscal year or less than a 

692
00:27:07,986 --> 00:27:10,208
month late . But since the enactment of 

693
00:27:10,208 --> 00:27:12,430
the Budget Control Act in fy 2011 , the 

694
00:27:12,430 --> 00:27:14,541
10 years of the B . C . A . That then 

695
00:27:14,541 --> 00:27:16,597
followed that enactment and now this 

696
00:27:16,597 --> 00:27:18,708
first year after the B . C . A . That 

697
00:27:18,708 --> 00:27:20,874
average has ballooned to 118 days late 

698
00:27:20,874 --> 00:27:23,097
Over the last 12 years assuming that we 

699
00:27:23,097 --> 00:27:25,152
could land this plane on February 18 

700
00:27:25,152 --> 00:27:27,690
this year , The sixth longest crs in 

701
00:27:27,690 --> 00:27:29,801
the history of the Defense Department 

702
00:27:29,801 --> 00:27:31,968
have all occurred in this last 12 year 

703
00:27:31,968 --> 00:27:33,912
period . We have turned a 12-month 

704
00:27:33,912 --> 00:27:36,079
fiscal year into an eight-month fiscal 

705
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:37,968
year . In terms of our ability to 

706
00:27:37,968 --> 00:27:40,301
initiate new starts and enter contracts . 

707
00:27:40,301 --> 00:27:42,523
This should be unacceptable and not the 

708
00:27:42,523 --> 00:27:44,746
new normal . It's hard to see this full 

709
00:27:44,746 --> 00:27:46,857
impact because or in the inefficiency 

710
00:27:46,857 --> 00:27:48,968
from looking from outside because the 

711
00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:51,079
organization has of course adapted to 

712
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:53,357
its circumstances just as organisms do . 

713
00:27:53,357 --> 00:27:55,579
Nobody plans to enter into contracts in 

714
00:27:55,579 --> 00:27:54,860
the first quarter of the fiscal year 

715
00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:56,804
now because the odds that we would 

716
00:27:56,804 --> 00:27:58,971
actually be able to do so are so low . 

717
00:27:58,971 --> 00:28:00,582
Therefore we in turn have no 

718
00:28:00,582 --> 00:28:02,693
significant contract delays to report 

719
00:28:02,693 --> 00:28:04,620
to you when we're under a cr In 

720
00:28:04,620 --> 00:28:06,787
addition to the direct consequences of 

721
00:28:06,787 --> 00:28:09,009
a cr including with the inefficiency of 

722
00:28:09,009 --> 00:28:11,064
the disruption to our people and our 

723
00:28:11,064 --> 00:28:10,980
operations and reduction in the 

724
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:13,150
resources that I have described . We 

725
00:28:13,150 --> 00:28:15,150
should not forget that inflation is 

726
00:28:15,150 --> 00:28:17,317
also eating into our funding while our 

727
00:28:17,317 --> 00:28:19,539
funding remains on hold . As Mr Calvert 

728
00:28:19,539 --> 00:28:21,872
noted for example , I've had to improve , 

729
00:28:21,872 --> 00:28:24,094
improve to increases in our fuel prices 

730
00:28:24,094 --> 00:28:26,150
this year already . First on October 

731
00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:28,261
one and a second . One on january 1st 

732
00:28:28,261 --> 00:28:30,094
in order to keep our our working 

733
00:28:30,094 --> 00:28:32,260
capital fund solvent . So this has 

734
00:28:32,260 --> 00:28:34,427
created a bill of a billion and a half 

735
00:28:34,427 --> 00:28:36,593
dollars to the services for fy 22 . In 

736
00:28:36,593 --> 00:28:38,538
addition to the reductions that we 

737
00:28:38,538 --> 00:28:40,704
already have described . And finally , 

738
00:28:40,704 --> 00:28:42,871
uh to be clear , the department is not 

739
00:28:42,871 --> 00:28:44,871
alone in this regard . We recognize 

740
00:28:44,871 --> 00:28:44,650
that in fact we have been treated 

741
00:28:44,650 --> 00:28:46,761
better over the years than some other 

742
00:28:46,761 --> 00:28:48,761
agencies . Department of Health and 

743
00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:50,817
human services is on the front lines 

744
00:28:50,817 --> 00:28:53,039
against the covid 19 pandemic . We have 

745
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,206
attacks on our critical infrastructure 

746
00:28:55,206 --> 00:28:57,261
and natural disasters that we expect 

747
00:28:57,261 --> 00:28:57,050
the Department of homeland Security to 

748
00:28:57,050 --> 00:28:59,650
respond to . We have to ensure Children 

749
00:28:59,650 --> 00:29:01,761
get the quality education , they need 

750
00:29:01,761 --> 00:29:03,650
to become the trained and capable 

751
00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:05,539
workforce of tomorrow so we can't 

752
00:29:05,539 --> 00:29:05,250
afford to run the federal government 

753
00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:07,371
any agency in the long year on a year 

754
00:29:07,371 --> 00:29:10,090
long cr our competitors china and 

755
00:29:10,090 --> 00:29:12,312
Russia in particular use all the pieces 

756
00:29:12,312 --> 00:29:14,479
on the chessboard to compete with us , 

757
00:29:14,479 --> 00:29:16,479
not just their military assets were 

758
00:29:16,479 --> 00:29:18,701
competing on the diplomatic front , the 

759
00:29:18,701 --> 00:29:20,812
economic front , the military front , 

760
00:29:20,812 --> 00:29:22,979
innovation and technology . If we take 

761
00:29:22,979 --> 00:29:25,201
this competition seriously as we should 

762
00:29:25,201 --> 00:29:27,090
and as our adversaries do then we 

763
00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:29,201
cannot afford to continue acting this 

764
00:29:29,201 --> 00:29:31,534
way . Time is money and year after year . 

765
00:29:31,534 --> 00:29:33,757
We're giving away time in these lengthy 

766
00:29:33,757 --> 00:29:33,510
crs we do not have such an 

767
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:35,677
insurmountable edge on our competitors 

768
00:29:35,677 --> 00:29:37,899
that we can afford to keep doing this . 

769
00:29:37,899 --> 00:29:40,121
Let me close chair and turn over torrey 

770
00:29:40,121 --> 00:29:42,288
military leaders for more specifics By 

771
00:29:42,288 --> 00:29:44,510
quoting what Secretary Austin said last 

772
00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:46,677
month quote , I strongly urge Congress 

773
00:29:46,677 --> 00:29:48,732
to seize this opportunity to sustain 

774
00:29:48,732 --> 00:29:50,677
american competitiveness , advance 

775
00:29:50,677 --> 00:29:52,621
american leadership and enable our 

776
00:29:52,621 --> 00:29:54,454
forces by immediately reaching a 

777
00:29:54,454 --> 00:29:56,621
bipartisan bicameral agreement on on a 

778
00:29:56,621 --> 00:29:58,843
full year . Fy 22 appropriations . It's 

779
00:29:58,843 --> 00:30:01,066
not only the right thing to do but it's 

780
00:30:01,066 --> 00:30:00,720
the best thing that they can do for our 

781
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,040
nation's defense with that I look 

782
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,262
forward to to your questions . Once all 

783
00:30:05,262 --> 00:30:07,207
the witnesses have concluded their 

784
00:30:07,207 --> 00:30:09,429
statements . Thank you . Thank you very 

785
00:30:09,429 --> 00:30:10,929
much and thank you for the 

786
00:30:10,929 --> 00:30:13,040
accessibility . Our office and I know 

787
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,873
other offices that serve on this 

788
00:30:14,873 --> 00:30:17,110
committee have had for questions um 

789
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,990
especially during the seriousness 

790
00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:23,212
of the Afghan refugees . Thank you very 

791
00:30:23,212 --> 00:30:25,046
much for your your work and your 

792
00:30:25,046 --> 00:30:27,212
professionalism general , our burger . 

793
00:30:27,212 --> 00:30:30,730
You're next Darren mccollum . 

794
00:30:30,740 --> 00:30:32,670
Ranking member of calvert charity 

795
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,050
Dolora and ranking member Granger and 

796
00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:37,350
the other distinguished members . The 

797
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:39,572
subcommittee thanks for the opportunity 

798
00:30:39,572 --> 00:30:42,280
to here before you today . Last spring 

799
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:46,670
At the FY 22 posturing , I updated this 

800
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,847
committee on the force design effort . 

801
00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:51,970
The Marine Corps began in 2019 were now 

802
00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:55,600
2.5 years into that major effort Of 

803
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,970
course designed 2030 is how your Marine 

804
00:30:57,970 --> 00:31:00,026
Corps is adjusting for the future in 

805
00:31:00,026 --> 00:31:01,637
order to match the operating 

806
00:31:01,637 --> 00:31:03,859
environment and to stay in front of our 

807
00:31:03,859 --> 00:31:06,780
adversaries . With that in mind , it 

808
00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:09,410
offered three ways that a yearlong 

809
00:31:09,410 --> 00:31:11,920
continuing resolution , which as noted 

810
00:31:11,930 --> 00:31:14,770
we've never had before . We have a much 

811
00:31:14,770 --> 00:31:17,570
greater adverse impact than previous 

812
00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:19,737
year . Continuing resolutions and I'll 

813
00:31:19,737 --> 00:31:22,660
start with people , you're marines and 

814
00:31:22,670 --> 00:31:25,600
their famous if we were a conscript 

815
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,880
force , we wouldn't worry much about an 

816
00:31:28,890 --> 00:31:31,860
impact of an extended cr an all 

817
00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:33,860
volunteer force on the other hand , 

818
00:31:33,860 --> 00:31:36,930
relies on volunteers , volunteers to 

819
00:31:36,930 --> 00:31:39,670
enlist volunteers to stay in service 

820
00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:44,100
Crs eat away at the trust those marines 

821
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:45,933
and their families have in their 

822
00:31:45,933 --> 00:31:48,120
government with no appropriations . I 

823
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,260
will have to delay and cancel some 

824
00:31:50,260 --> 00:31:52,960
transfer orders , incentive pays and 

825
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,670
bonuses reduced families won't know 

826
00:31:57,140 --> 00:31:59,362
whether to renew their housing leases , 

827
00:31:59,362 --> 00:32:01,680
spouses won't know whether to accept 

828
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,880
the job offer that gap last week . All 

829
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,510
due to uncertainty . The impacts on 

830
00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:09,940
recruiting and retention will last . 

831
00:32:09,950 --> 00:32:12,710
I'm confident well beyond 2022 because 

832
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:15,800
you cannot rebuild trust in a week for 

833
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,689
a month or a year . Not in an all 

834
00:32:17,689 --> 00:32:20,960
volunteer force . Second for the Marine 

835
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,127
Corps impacts on modernization and the 

836
00:32:23,127 --> 00:32:25,238
industrial base risk especially acute 

837
00:32:25,540 --> 00:32:27,770
as a result of forced design decisions 

838
00:32:27,770 --> 00:32:29,826
I've taken over the past few years . 

839
00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:32,890
We've already divested of cold and 

840
00:32:32,890 --> 00:32:35,710
begun to reinvest in new , which was a 

841
00:32:35,710 --> 00:32:37,543
prudent plan that this committee 

842
00:32:37,543 --> 00:32:39,710
recommended I take and each of you has 

843
00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:42,420
fully supported today . Continuing 

844
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:44,587
resolutions . However , looking in one 

845
00:32:44,587 --> 00:32:47,800
direction backwards , they execute last 

846
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,689
year's budget against this year's 

847
00:32:49,689 --> 00:32:52,420
priorities . CRS effectively prevent 

848
00:32:52,420 --> 00:32:55,320
modernization at speed . The speed 

849
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,400
required for us to keep up the pace and 

850
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,840
our adversaries have set and sustained 

851
00:33:00,850 --> 00:33:03,990
and here's the thing about that we 

852
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:06,268
actually stand to be outpaced by china , 

853
00:33:06,268 --> 00:33:08,490
not because of their speed that because 

854
00:33:08,490 --> 00:33:10,601
of our failure to comply with our own 

855
00:33:10,601 --> 00:33:13,850
budgetary processes . Time is the one 

856
00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:16,350
critical resource as the undersecretary 

857
00:33:16,350 --> 00:33:18,406
pointed out , we need to affect real 

858
00:33:18,406 --> 00:33:20,461
change and no amount of resources in 

859
00:33:20,461 --> 00:33:23,920
the future can buy back lost time Under 

860
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,820
a 4-year cr . We will delay acquisition 

861
00:33:26,820 --> 00:33:29,340
of critical Marine Corps force design 

862
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,730
programs . MQ 98 procurement won't 

863
00:33:32,730 --> 00:33:35,990
happen . Production increases for f 35 

864
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,580
Bs KC 1 30 J CH 53 K 

865
00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:41,770
aircraft . The amphibious combat 

866
00:33:41,770 --> 00:33:44,820
vehicle won't happen . Workers in 

867
00:33:44,820 --> 00:33:47,690
southern California york , pennsylvania 

868
00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:50,180
Dallas , fort Worth , Camden Arkansas , 

869
00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:53,180
Tucson , Arizona Stratford Connecticut 

870
00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:55,180
and a dozen other locations will be 

871
00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:57,500
affected . Those workers need 

872
00:33:57,510 --> 00:34:00,080
predictability . Actually , there is 

873
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,191
one predictable outcome of a yearlong 

874
00:34:02,191 --> 00:34:04,358
cr and that is that those workers will 

875
00:34:04,358 --> 00:34:06,730
go elsewhere because they have families 

876
00:34:06,730 --> 00:34:10,350
to support . Third , we face the 

877
00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:12,183
prospect of losing the trust and 

878
00:34:12,183 --> 00:34:14,294
confidence of our allies and partners 

879
00:34:14,294 --> 00:34:16,406
because commanders will have to scale 

880
00:34:16,406 --> 00:34:18,517
back is scheduled exercises they have 

881
00:34:18,517 --> 00:34:20,628
for this year and in some cases still 

882
00:34:20,628 --> 00:34:22,800
need to cancel . Well , that's only 

883
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,760
relevant if your national security 

884
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,593
strategy , depends on allies and 

885
00:34:26,593 --> 00:34:30,450
partners ours does . Trust is a big 

886
00:34:30,450 --> 00:34:32,561
part of what keeps the door open with 

887
00:34:32,561 --> 00:34:34,670
our partners once that door closes , 

888
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,096
it's really hard to recover from the 

889
00:34:37,096 --> 00:34:38,651
damage done to the military 

890
00:34:38,651 --> 00:34:40,740
relationships . We should anticipate 

891
00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:42,796
that some of them will begin to look 

892
00:34:42,796 --> 00:34:44,580
elsewhere for more reliable , 

893
00:34:44,580 --> 00:34:47,850
dependable partners . One final point , 

894
00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:52,030
sadly , as pointed out as a military , 

895
00:34:52,030 --> 00:34:54,086
we've become accustomed to a process 

896
00:34:54,086 --> 00:34:56,252
that fails to deliver a budget on time 

897
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,240
and over the past decade of cRS , we've 

898
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,462
learned how to adjust our operating and 

899
00:35:01,462 --> 00:35:03,690
contracting practices for the 

900
00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:05,634
continuing resolution that we just 

901
00:35:05,634 --> 00:35:07,023
assume it's gonna happen 

902
00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:13,390
at behaving badly . If the past 10 

903
00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:15,660
budget cycles are prologue , we'll be 

904
00:35:15,660 --> 00:35:17,716
meeting here again next year to talk 

905
00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:20,060
about the same things during that time . 

906
00:35:20,540 --> 00:35:22,540
The chinese will launch more than a 

907
00:35:22,540 --> 00:35:24,630
dozen new surface combatants . The 

908
00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:27,370
launch patrol craft carrier capable of 

909
00:35:27,370 --> 00:35:30,710
carrying long range anti ship cruise 

910
00:35:30,710 --> 00:35:32,710
missiles . They'll field additional 

911
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:35,250
Squadrons of 5th Generation Aircraft . 

912
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,496
We can't afford to have that meeting 

913
00:35:38,496 --> 00:35:40,990
here next year . Service chiefs need 

914
00:35:40,990 --> 00:35:42,879
sufficient , stable , predictable 

915
00:35:42,879 --> 00:35:45,157
funding to stay in front of our pacing , 

916
00:35:45,157 --> 00:35:47,370
threat to deter our adversaries and if 

917
00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:51,290
need be to fight and win , we 

918
00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:53,234
haven't taken any of these extreme 

919
00:35:53,234 --> 00:35:55,860
actions . Not yet . This train wreck in 

920
00:35:55,860 --> 00:35:58,260
front of us is entirely preventable 

921
00:35:59,140 --> 00:36:01,251
again . Thanks for the opportunity to 

922
00:36:01,251 --> 00:36:03,362
appear here this morning . And I look 

923
00:36:03,362 --> 00:36:05,473
forward to your questions . Thank you 

924
00:36:05,473 --> 00:36:07,700
Sir . Admiral guilty . You're up next 

925
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:11,260
please terry mccollum . Ranking member 

926
00:36:11,260 --> 00:36:14,040
calvert , Dell'Oro ranking member 

927
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,262
Granger and other distinguished members 

928
00:36:16,262 --> 00:36:18,484
of the subcommittee . Thank you for the 

929
00:36:18,484 --> 00:36:20,720
opportunity . Testify with my fellow 

930
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,690
service chiefs this morning and Mr 

931
00:36:23,690 --> 00:36:26,760
McCord's Well , the peace dividend has 

932
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,340
long passed . We are now in a 

933
00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:32,100
relentless race with your competitor 

934
00:36:32,530 --> 00:36:34,586
every day . Matters in this critical 

935
00:36:34,586 --> 00:36:38,250
decade . In the face of a rising china 

936
00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:41,570
Navy's top line . In other words , our 

937
00:36:41,570 --> 00:36:44,450
buying power has been relatively flat 

938
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:48,650
for more than a decade . A yearlong cr . 

939
00:36:49,130 --> 00:36:53,120
It will cost us time that can't be 

940
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,750
recovered and have irreversible impact 

941
00:36:57,130 --> 00:37:00,050
to some of our most important programs . 

942
00:37:00,730 --> 00:37:03,310
This is exacerbated during a time when 

943
00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:05,570
we're still fighting the pandemic As 

944
00:37:05,570 --> 00:37:07,459
well as his rank . Ranking member 

945
00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:11,410
Calvin uh mentioned a 7% inflation 

946
00:37:11,410 --> 00:37:15,170
rate on a budget , 60% of which 

947
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:17,750
already rises above the rate of 

948
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:20,090
inflation . I'd like to briefly 

949
00:37:20,090 --> 00:37:21,979
summarize what I see as the major 

950
00:37:21,979 --> 00:37:24,850
impacts in three areas . The first is 

951
00:37:24,850 --> 00:37:28,510
strategically the impacts of a yearlong 

952
00:37:28,510 --> 00:37:31,270
Cr will further erode our ability to 

953
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:33,750
credibly deter our adversaries . 

954
00:37:34,930 --> 00:37:38,770
Your long CR will yield a smaller last 

955
00:37:38,770 --> 00:37:42,720
ready less capable and less lethal 

956
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,140
United States Navy . It will have 

957
00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:48,240
significant impacts to readiness , 

958
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:52,440
modernization and shipbuilding . The 

959
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,130
work that we are pursuing the once in a 

960
00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:58,230
century work on our public shipyards 

961
00:37:58,390 --> 00:38:02,190
will come to a stop the work that we're 

962
00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:06,130
doing to invest in a new S . S . B . 

963
00:38:06,130 --> 00:38:09,200
N . The most the most survivable leg of 

964
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,440
our strategic triad will be put at risk 

965
00:38:13,420 --> 00:38:13,750
this 

966
00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:21,931
sir . You have lost your audio if you 

967
00:38:21,931 --> 00:38:25,590
can hear me . Can you hear me ma'am ? I 

968
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:27,812
can hear you now . Thank you . Yeah , I 

969
00:38:27,812 --> 00:38:29,923
mentioned the impacts on the Columbia 

970
00:38:29,923 --> 00:38:32,340
program . Rss bien that most survivable 

971
00:38:32,340 --> 00:38:35,130
leg of the triad . And the fact that uh 

972
00:38:35,140 --> 00:38:37,300
that program has no margin as it 

973
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:39,411
replaces submarines that have been in 

974
00:38:39,411 --> 00:38:42,470
the water for four decades and lastly 

975
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:45,930
importantly , game changing uh 

976
00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:48,107
investments that we're making in hyper 

977
00:38:48,107 --> 00:38:50,930
sonics and laser weapons will also be 

978
00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:53,300
impacted . The second area the 

979
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:56,150
commandant covered . I'll briefly cover 

980
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:58,960
as well and that's people . We'll 

981
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,130
reduce the sessions by almost 75% and 

982
00:39:02,130 --> 00:39:05,800
will delay or cancel . Change of 

983
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,480
station moves by more than 50% . As the 

984
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,536
commandant mentioned . Families have 

985
00:39:11,536 --> 00:39:13,702
already been planning for that spouses 

986
00:39:13,702 --> 00:39:15,702
have already been accepting jobs or 

987
00:39:15,702 --> 00:39:18,620
planning to relocate . We will we will 

988
00:39:18,620 --> 00:39:20,820
withhold reenlistment bonuses and 

989
00:39:20,820 --> 00:39:23,270
special incentive bonuses that keep our 

990
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:26,020
best sailors and their families in the 

991
00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:29,800
United States Navy . And importantly 

992
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,810
we will exacerbate a Seydoux gap 

993
00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:35,820
at risk breaking trust that further 

994
00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:38,580
risk breaking trust with sailors and 

995
00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:41,460
their families in the last area that I 

996
00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,516
think it's important to highlight at 

997
00:39:43,516 --> 00:39:45,627
least for the navy is the impact from 

998
00:39:45,627 --> 00:39:47,540
the defense industrial base . The 

999
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:49,651
impact of covid and inflation as I've 

1000
00:39:49,651 --> 00:39:52,000
already mentioned will be magnified by 

1001
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,920
a yearlong cr it'll hurt shipbuilders , 

1002
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:58,120
hurt aircraft manufacturers and small , 

1003
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,650
innovative high tech companies in all 

1004
00:40:00,650 --> 00:40:02,483
of your districts that have made 

1005
00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:05,180
significant investments on their own in 

1006
00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:07,402
both infrastructure and their workforce 

1007
00:40:07,402 --> 00:40:09,458
to make us a stronger , more capable 

1008
00:40:09,458 --> 00:40:13,320
military . As others 

1009
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,542
have stated . We are well accustomed to 

1010
00:40:15,542 --> 00:40:18,860
adjusting to short term crs as 

1011
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:21,580
as much as they are inefficient and 

1012
00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:24,740
costly but we've become good at it . A 

1013
00:40:24,740 --> 00:40:27,620
yearlong cr is completely new territory 

1014
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:30,300
that we have not dealt with before . It 

1015
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:32,920
will have significant impacts across 

1016
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,560
our military . Our Navy is 

1017
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,920
grateful for the subcommittee support 

1018
00:40:38,930 --> 00:40:40,874
and I look forward to filling your 

1019
00:40:40,874 --> 00:40:44,780
questions . Thank you . Thank you 

1020
00:40:44,780 --> 00:40:47,790
very much for your testimony . General 

1021
00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:49,360
Raymond please 

1022
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:56,933
share McCullum ranking member of 

1023
00:40:56,933 --> 00:40:59,044
calvert , shared aloro ranking member 

1024
00:40:59,044 --> 00:41:01,211
of ranger and distinguished members of 

1025
00:41:01,211 --> 00:41:03,267
the subcommittee . Thank you for the 

1026
00:41:03,267 --> 00:41:05,378
opportunity to testify virtually with 

1027
00:41:05,378 --> 00:41:07,267
Mr . McCord and my fellow service 

1028
00:41:07,267 --> 00:41:09,440
chiefs . I also want to thank this 

1029
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,662
committee for your continued leadership 

1030
00:41:11,662 --> 00:41:13,773
and support of the guardians who I am 

1031
00:41:13,773 --> 00:41:15,773
privileged to serve alongside . The 

1032
00:41:15,773 --> 00:41:17,940
primary focus of the Space force is to 

1033
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:20,030
deliver capabilities that give our 

1034
00:41:20,030 --> 00:41:22,330
forces the freedom to maneuver in the 

1035
00:41:22,330 --> 00:41:25,440
time place and domain of our choosing . 

1036
00:41:25,810 --> 00:41:29,230
That includes land , sea , air , cyber 

1037
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,940
and space . We're working to do this at 

1038
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:34,530
speed , focusing on our core missions 

1039
00:41:34,530 --> 00:41:36,752
and working closely with this committee 

1040
00:41:36,752 --> 00:41:40,280
as we stand up this force . As you know , 

1041
00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:42,760
space is a contested domain , threats 

1042
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,704
are increasing and adversaries are 

1043
00:41:44,704 --> 00:41:47,390
challenging our dominance . China 

1044
00:41:47,390 --> 00:41:49,446
recently launched a hypersonic glide 

1045
00:41:49,446 --> 00:41:51,170
vehicle and a fractional and a 

1046
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:53,450
fractional orbit likely capable of 

1047
00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:55,910
delivering weapons . If we can't track 

1048
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:58,490
it , we can't defeat it . Russia's 

1049
00:41:58,490 --> 00:42:00,690
recent anti satellite test was 

1050
00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:02,857
shattered at defunct Russian satellite 

1051
00:42:02,857 --> 00:42:04,912
into thousands of pieces of debris . 

1052
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:08,000
Also threaten the freedom of our forces 

1053
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,320
to operate in the time and place of our 

1054
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,960
choosing . Our adversaries are 

1055
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,480
accelerating . This is not the time to 

1056
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,660
be slowing the development and feeling 

1057
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,010
of modernized capabilities for our 

1058
00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:23,370
forces . Please allow me to detail how 

1059
00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:26,500
a long term CR will hurt our ability to 

1060
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:30,100
address these and other threats . A 

1061
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,044
yearlong cr would reduce the space 

1062
00:42:32,044 --> 00:42:34,870
force's top line budget by $2 billion , 

1063
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:38,340
slowing modernization , decreasing 

1064
00:42:38,340 --> 00:42:40,630
readiness and impacting our ability to 

1065
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:42,963
compete and deter with china and Russia . 

1066
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:45,270
It would decrease research and 

1067
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:47,159
development for resilient missile 

1068
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,650
warning and missile tracking . It will 

1069
00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:51,720
uh and for space domain awareness , 

1070
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,120
protected satellite communications and 

1071
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,640
precision navigation and timing , all 

1072
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,862
of which are critical capabilities that 

1073
00:42:58,862 --> 00:43:00,696
the joint force needs to operate 

1074
00:43:00,696 --> 00:43:02,918
effectively . It would slow our ability 

1075
00:43:02,918 --> 00:43:05,084
to manage risk and inform future force 

1076
00:43:05,084 --> 00:43:06,973
designs , delaying our ability to 

1077
00:43:06,973 --> 00:43:08,910
modernize too resilient and more 

1078
00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:11,100
mission capable architectures in the 

1079
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:13,400
face of growing threats . It would cut 

1080
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,230
the procurement of two of five planned 

1081
00:43:16,250 --> 00:43:18,583
national security space launch missiles , 

1082
00:43:18,583 --> 00:43:20,690
delaying our ability to place 

1083
00:43:20,690 --> 00:43:23,010
previously acquired capability on orbit 

1084
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,530
and putting at risk the cost savings of 

1085
00:43:25,530 --> 00:43:28,970
the National space launch program . It 

1086
00:43:28,970 --> 00:43:31,026
would cut , excuse me , it would cut 

1087
00:43:31,026 --> 00:43:33,248
800 million intended for development of 

1088
00:43:33,248 --> 00:43:35,710
classified operational systems designed 

1089
00:43:35,710 --> 00:43:39,310
to deter china and Russia and respond 

1090
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,500
if deterrence fails and I can fully 

1091
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:43,722
describe these capabilities in a closed 

1092
00:43:43,722 --> 00:43:46,520
session . And lastly most important , 

1093
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:49,550
it would break trust with our guardians 

1094
00:43:49,550 --> 00:43:51,710
and their families because we were 

1095
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:53,960
established as a lean mission focus 

1096
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,710
force , we continue to rely on the Air 

1097
00:43:56,710 --> 00:43:58,821
Force's Airman and family programs to 

1098
00:43:58,821 --> 00:44:01,060
support our guardians . General Brown 

1099
00:44:01,060 --> 00:44:03,250
will describe negative impacts to pay 

1100
00:44:03,260 --> 00:44:06,080
recruiting retention airman programs , 

1101
00:44:06,090 --> 00:44:08,880
all of which would have long term 

1102
00:44:08,890 --> 00:44:11,800
lasting effects on our guardians and 

1103
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,380
their families as well . The continuing 

1104
00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:16,380
resolution will adapt , undoubtedly 

1105
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:18,213
have negative impacts across the 

1106
00:44:18,213 --> 00:44:20,324
entirety of the joint force . But the 

1107
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:22,047
effects of the Space Force are 

1108
00:44:22,047 --> 00:44:25,040
particularly acute as we stand up . It 

1109
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,310
would seriously compromise our ability 

1110
00:44:27,310 --> 00:44:29,032
to enhance unity of effort and 

1111
00:44:29,032 --> 00:44:31,190
efficiency , generate mission ready 

1112
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:33,760
forces and deliver the new capabilities 

1113
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,070
that Joint force needs to deter and 

1114
00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:37,681
prevail . Thank you for this 

1115
00:44:37,681 --> 00:44:39,570
opportunity to testify and I look 

1116
00:44:39,570 --> 00:44:41,681
forward to your questions . Thank you 

1117
00:44:41,681 --> 00:44:43,903
very much . We will now turn to General 

1118
00:44:43,903 --> 00:44:47,790
Brown . General Brown please chuck 

1119
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,800
McCullough , ranking member calvert 

1120
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,633
chair to laurel , ranking member 

1121
00:44:51,633 --> 00:44:53,689
granger and distinguished members of 

1122
00:44:53,689 --> 00:44:55,744
the subcommittee . Thank you for the 

1123
00:44:55,744 --> 00:44:57,800
opportunity to testify for Mr McCord 

1124
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,800
and my fellow service chiefs and to 

1125
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,967
testify on behalf of the 689,000 Total 

1126
00:45:01,967 --> 00:45:04,022
Force Chairman of your United States 

1127
00:45:04,022 --> 00:45:06,630
Air Force As the nation's 22nd Air 

1128
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:08,970
Force chief of staff , I am humbled to 

1129
00:45:08,970 --> 00:45:11,137
uphold my responsibility to ensure our 

1130
00:45:11,137 --> 00:45:13,137
airmen and our air force remain the 

1131
00:45:13,137 --> 00:45:15,192
greatest in the world of the day and 

1132
00:45:15,192 --> 00:45:17,630
tomorrow . So I've seen my position I 

1133
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,790
wrote accelerate change or lose Over 

1134
00:45:19,790 --> 00:45:22,600
the last 17 months . Made collaboration 

1135
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,100
and priority two enable acceleration 

1136
00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:29,640
Fact since August 2020 , I've engaged 

1137
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,080
with Congress Members and staffers 

1138
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,191
nearly 200 times because I believe we 

1139
00:45:34,191 --> 00:45:37,050
must work together on our Air Force Air 

1140
00:45:37,050 --> 00:45:39,383
forces feature in our nation's security . 

1141
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:42,440
I am pleased that fiscal year 2022 

1142
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,662
National Defense Authorization Act made 

1143
00:45:44,662 --> 00:45:47,130
significant progress . But as you 

1144
00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:49,297
understand the goals of this important 

1145
00:45:49,297 --> 00:45:51,463
policy will be unrealized , absent the 

1146
00:45:51,463 --> 00:45:53,686
dedicated service of this committee and 

1147
00:45:53,686 --> 00:45:55,352
their counterparts to pass an 

1148
00:45:55,352 --> 00:45:57,408
appropriation bill . Unfortunately , 

1149
00:45:57,408 --> 00:45:59,408
that your long continued resolution 

1150
00:45:59,408 --> 00:46:01,463
would stall progress towards today's 

1151
00:46:01,463 --> 00:46:03,741
readiness and tomorrow's modernization . 

1152
00:46:03,741 --> 00:46:05,686
Bottom line would have devastating 

1153
00:46:05,686 --> 00:46:07,797
impacts on the Air Force's ability to 

1154
00:46:07,797 --> 00:46:09,852
retain quality airman , maintain our 

1155
00:46:09,852 --> 00:46:12,019
readiness and modernize for tomorrow . 

1156
00:46:12,019 --> 00:46:14,410
Specifically we would lose $3.5 billion 

1157
00:46:14,410 --> 00:46:18,290
2021 budget 

1158
00:46:18,290 --> 00:46:21,020
levels as much as as this affects the 

1159
00:46:21,020 --> 00:46:23,076
Air Force physically , the impact it 

1160
00:46:23,076 --> 00:46:24,909
has on our way to change is more 

1161
00:46:24,909 --> 00:46:27,610
shattering . Time is irrecoverable and 

1162
00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:29,443
when you're working to keep pace 

1163
00:46:29,443 --> 00:46:31,388
against well resourced and focused 

1164
00:46:31,388 --> 00:46:34,330
competitors , Time matters . Year long 

1165
00:46:34,340 --> 00:46:36,451
continued resolution would hinder our 

1166
00:46:36,451 --> 00:46:38,340
Airmen's readiness resilience and 

1167
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:41,450
retention . It held a fiscal year 2021 . 

1168
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:43,343
Funding the Air Force's military 

1169
00:46:43,343 --> 00:46:45,454
personnel account could lose up to $1 

1170
00:46:45,454 --> 00:46:47,930
billion . Critical annual professional 

1171
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:50,041
military training for a Grand Reserve 

1172
00:46:50,041 --> 00:46:52,097
Regiment will be curtailed or cancel 

1173
00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:54,636
bottle funding for imminent guardian 

1174
00:46:54,636 --> 00:46:56,747
programs , programs addressing sexual 

1175
00:46:56,747 --> 00:46:58,580
assault and harassment , suicide 

1176
00:46:58,580 --> 00:47:00,960
prevention diversity inclusion , but 

1177
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,127
also be eliminated at a time when they 

1178
00:47:03,127 --> 00:47:05,182
are most needed . Additionally , you 

1179
00:47:05,182 --> 00:47:07,182
can eliminate central incentive and 

1180
00:47:07,182 --> 00:47:09,238
retention bonuses , eroding airman's 

1181
00:47:09,238 --> 00:47:11,016
trust across current and future 

1182
00:47:11,016 --> 00:47:13,016
eligible year groups . You're on cr 

1183
00:47:13,016 --> 00:47:15,238
good force reductions in our flying our 

1184
00:47:15,238 --> 00:47:16,849
program , weapons instance , 

1185
00:47:16,849 --> 00:47:18,460
sustainment and facilities , 

1186
00:47:18,460 --> 00:47:20,016
sustainment restoration and 

1187
00:47:20,016 --> 00:47:22,127
modernization accounts . You can also 

1188
00:47:22,127 --> 00:47:24,016
slow down and or freeze hiring of 

1189
00:47:24,016 --> 00:47:26,016
civilians , all impacting Air Force 

1190
00:47:26,016 --> 00:47:28,320
capability , capacity and readiness . 

1191
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,447
You launch your can impact billions of 

1192
00:47:31,447 --> 00:47:33,220
dollars in worldwide military 

1193
00:47:33,220 --> 00:47:36,130
construction , 78 new start programs 

1194
00:47:36,130 --> 00:47:38,600
for active guard reserve components for 

1195
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,520
programs such as the ground based 

1196
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:44,130
strategic deterrent B 21 A C 46 F 

1197
00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:48,090
35 F 16 and C 1 30 . Whether it will 

1198
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:50,257
affect vital mission growth at the air 

1199
00:47:50,257 --> 00:47:51,757
force bases in four states 

1200
00:47:51,757 --> 00:47:53,757
International Guard Location Across 

1201
00:47:53,757 --> 00:47:56,010
nine States . Four areas of 

1202
00:47:56,010 --> 00:47:58,121
modernization I want to highlight are 

1203
00:47:58,121 --> 00:48:00,343
the nuclear enterprise advanced weapons 

1204
00:48:00,343 --> 00:48:02,510
aerodynamics , platforms , enterprise 

1205
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,687
information technology and structure . 

1206
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:07,930
Yearlong cr could irreversibly delayed 

1207
00:48:07,940 --> 00:48:10,051
ground-based strategic return initial 

1208
00:48:10,051 --> 00:48:13,230
operating capability past 2029 long 

1209
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:15,286
range standoff weapon by over a year 

1210
00:48:15,370 --> 00:48:16,981
And the conventional initial 

1211
00:48:16,981 --> 00:48:18,926
operational capability and nuclear 

1212
00:48:18,926 --> 00:48:21,259
certification of the B- 21 up to a year . 

1213
00:48:22,070 --> 00:48:24,181
Additionally , the advancement of our 

1214
00:48:24,181 --> 00:48:26,181
two conventional hypersonic weapons 

1215
00:48:26,181 --> 00:48:28,237
could be prevented . I would like to 

1216
00:48:28,237 --> 00:48:30,348
point out that our patient challenges 

1217
00:48:30,348 --> 00:48:29,620
have either modernized or nuclear 

1218
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:32,100
enterprise and or are fielding 

1219
00:48:32,110 --> 00:48:34,950
hypersonic systems . Meanwhile we are 

1220
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:37,172
still in the beginning phases of both . 

1221
00:48:37,570 --> 00:48:39,737
Moreover , funding for next generation 

1222
00:48:39,737 --> 00:48:41,681
air dominance are sixth generation 

1223
00:48:41,681 --> 00:48:43,570
tactical aircraft system enabling 

1224
00:48:43,570 --> 00:48:45,514
future security could be reduced . 

1225
00:48:46,270 --> 00:48:48,880
Finally , vital funding to enterprise 

1226
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,936
information technology modernization 

1227
00:48:50,936 --> 00:48:52,769
could be eliminated , increasing 

1228
00:48:52,769 --> 00:48:54,991
network vulnerability and impacting our 

1229
00:48:54,991 --> 00:48:56,824
contribution to joint all domain 

1230
00:48:56,824 --> 00:48:58,880
command and control infrastructure . 

1231
00:48:59,270 --> 00:49:01,460
Although young you're you're on cr 

1232
00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:03,293
would decrease our funding . The 

1233
00:49:03,293 --> 00:49:05,293
greater loss will be time time that 

1234
00:49:05,293 --> 00:49:07,460
could uh we could have spent exploring 

1235
00:49:07,460 --> 00:49:09,127
today's radius and tomorrow's 

1236
00:49:09,127 --> 00:49:10,793
modernization . Meanwhile our 

1237
00:49:10,793 --> 00:49:12,904
competitors rate of change is blaming 

1238
00:49:12,904 --> 00:49:15,470
them to approach parity with many of 

1239
00:49:15,470 --> 00:49:17,303
our warfighting capabilities and 

1240
00:49:17,303 --> 00:49:19,920
concepts . Year long cr further erode 

1241
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,753
our advantage and impede the Air 

1242
00:49:21,753 --> 00:49:23,920
Force's acceleration towards the force 

1243
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,698
of tomorrow . Thank you for the 

1244
00:49:25,698 --> 00:49:27,864
opportunity to be with you today and I 

1245
00:49:27,864 --> 00:49:30,031
look forward to your questions . Thank 

1246
00:49:30,031 --> 00:49:32,142
you General and now we will hear from 

1247
00:49:32,142 --> 00:49:34,580
General martin please sir . The time is 

1248
00:49:34,580 --> 00:49:37,950
yours sure . Mccollum , 

1249
00:49:39,070 --> 00:49:42,290
ranking member calvert chair DeLauro 

1250
00:49:42,770 --> 00:49:44,640
and ranking member granger and 

1251
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,251
distinguished members of the 

1252
00:49:46,251 --> 00:49:48,140
subcommittee on the behalf of the 

1253
00:49:48,140 --> 00:49:50,362
secretary of the Army , the honorable , 

1254
00:49:50,362 --> 00:49:52,473
Christine warm earth and the Chief of 

1255
00:49:52,473 --> 00:49:54,362
staff of the army . General James 

1256
00:49:54,362 --> 00:49:56,529
McConville . Thank you for inviting me 

1257
00:49:56,529 --> 00:49:58,640
here today to testify and discuss the 

1258
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,862
impact of continuing resolutions on the 

1259
00:50:00,862 --> 00:50:02,862
Department of the Army . And I also 

1260
00:50:02,862 --> 00:50:04,696
want to especially thank you for 

1261
00:50:04,696 --> 00:50:06,760
recognizing the service of General 

1262
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,760
Odierno is a huge loss . The army by 

1263
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,593
doctrine is the nation's initial 

1264
00:50:12,593 --> 00:50:14,670
response force to emergent threats . 

1265
00:50:14,830 --> 00:50:17,060
Last year , the army contributed over 

1266
00:50:17,060 --> 00:50:19,880
50% of the joint forces provided to 

1267
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,300
combatant commanders And 66% of the 

1268
00:50:23,300 --> 00:50:25,510
composite directed readiness tables , 

1269
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:27,288
supporting operational planning 

1270
00:50:27,288 --> 00:50:30,050
requirements . This included responding 

1271
00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:31,994
to and providing continued support 

1272
00:50:31,994 --> 00:50:34,670
through the COVID-19 pandemic civil 

1273
00:50:34,670 --> 00:50:37,190
unrest . Natural disasters supported 

1274
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:40,120
our southern border and the security of 

1275
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,460
the national capital . Total joint 

1276
00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:46,340
emergent costs to the Fy 21 global 

1277
00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:48,507
force management allocation plan worth 

1278
00:50:48,507 --> 00:50:51,900
$2.8 billion of which the army 

1279
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,040
contributed $1.6 billion or 

1280
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,270
56% of the total emergent 

1281
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,290
costs . The army responded to these 

1282
00:51:01,290 --> 00:51:03,190
unforeseen requirements all while 

1283
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:05,412
continuing to deter aggression abroad , 

1284
00:51:05,412 --> 00:51:07,468
strengthen relationships with allies 

1285
00:51:07,468 --> 00:51:09,650
and partners conduct counter terrorism 

1286
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:11,600
operations around the world and 

1287
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,100
maintain the readiness of our soldiers 

1288
00:51:14,140 --> 00:51:16,160
and our D . A . C civilians in 

1289
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,250
preparation for the next mission . 

1290
00:51:18,260 --> 00:51:21,590
Whatever that may be Simultanely to 

1291
00:51:21,590 --> 00:51:23,201
keep pace with any potential 

1292
00:51:23,201 --> 00:51:25,740
adversaries were currently undergoing 

1293
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:27,740
the most significant transformation 

1294
00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:29,907
effort in the past 40 years to provide 

1295
00:51:29,907 --> 00:51:32,018
the joint force with the most capable 

1296
00:51:32,018 --> 00:51:35,510
and lethal land army in the world . The 

1297
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:37,732
ability of the army to accomplish these 

1298
00:51:37,732 --> 00:51:39,677
diverse tests wouldn't be possible 

1299
00:51:39,677 --> 00:51:41,843
without the support for Congress . And 

1300
00:51:41,843 --> 00:51:43,732
we sincerely thank you for that . 

1301
00:51:44,260 --> 00:51:46,750
However , readiness is fragile and I 

1302
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:48,917
can't emphasize enough how important , 

1303
00:51:48,917 --> 00:51:52,250
timely , adequate , predictable and 

1304
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:54,250
sustained funding is to keeping the 

1305
00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:56,417
army at the highest state of readiness 

1306
00:51:56,417 --> 00:51:58,750
possible because who knows what 

1307
00:51:58,750 --> 00:52:01,360
tomorrow will bring Over the past 10 

1308
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,471
years . The Department of Defense has 

1309
00:52:03,471 --> 00:52:05,693
started all but one fiscal year under a 

1310
00:52:05,693 --> 00:52:07,582
cr . Although we have adapted our 

1311
00:52:07,582 --> 00:52:09,749
business practices to maneuver through 

1312
00:52:09,749 --> 00:52:11,971
this fiscal uncertainty and the effects 

1313
00:52:11,971 --> 00:52:14,430
of the short duration Crs A four year 

1314
00:52:14,430 --> 00:52:17,530
CR would adversely affect our soldiers , 

1315
00:52:17,540 --> 00:52:20,860
our soldiers , our readiness , our 

1316
00:52:20,860 --> 00:52:23,240
modernization program in our 

1317
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:25,300
infrastructure improvement efforts . 

1318
00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:28,560
Monetarily we assess the total impact 

1319
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,671
of the army under a yearlong cr could 

1320
00:52:30,671 --> 00:52:34,230
be as high as $12.9 billion . The 

1321
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:36,397
impact is even larger when considering 

1322
00:52:36,397 --> 00:52:39,070
the effects of the effects of inflation 

1323
00:52:40,350 --> 00:52:42,820
included in this number are misaligned 

1324
00:52:42,820 --> 00:52:45,850
funds as well as funding funding spread 

1325
00:52:45,850 --> 00:52:48,570
across military pay , research and 

1326
00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:50,780
acquisition programs , military 

1327
00:52:50,780 --> 00:52:52,613
construction projects and family 

1328
00:52:52,613 --> 00:52:55,150
housing initiatives . A few impacts to 

1329
00:52:55,150 --> 00:52:57,540
readiness include pilot readiness due 

1330
00:52:57,540 --> 00:53:00,870
to reduced aviation flying hours . Also 

1331
00:53:00,870 --> 00:53:03,490
to base operations support and a 

1332
00:53:03,490 --> 00:53:05,630
decreased ability to send soldiers to 

1333
00:53:05,630 --> 00:53:08,200
professional military education and 

1334
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,960
properly maintain proficiency in our 

1335
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,820
formations and maintain the readiness 

1336
00:53:14,830 --> 00:53:18,150
of the equipment that they use a full 

1337
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:20,039
year CR would severely impact our 

1338
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:22,261
ability to modernize to meet tomorrow's 

1339
00:53:22,261 --> 00:53:24,920
challenges . The combined effect of 

1340
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,920
delays in procurement and prototype 

1341
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,087
advancement on top of a disruption and 

1342
00:53:29,087 --> 00:53:31,190
timelines for development in 

1343
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:33,412
construction of critical army and joint 

1344
00:53:33,412 --> 00:53:36,590
technologies may very well create a 

1345
00:53:36,590 --> 00:53:38,930
cumulative impact to our modernization 

1346
00:53:39,010 --> 00:53:41,840
initiatives that would be difficult to 

1347
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,920
overcome . This includes potential 

1348
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,753
impacts the modernization of our 

1349
00:53:46,753 --> 00:53:49,690
organic industrial base . In summary , 

1350
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:51,533
A yearlong CR would cause severe 

1351
00:53:51,533 --> 00:53:53,644
impacts to the army's ability to care 

1352
00:53:53,644 --> 00:53:56,520
for our soldiers and our families , to 

1353
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,780
our readiness and capability to respond 

1354
00:53:58,780 --> 00:54:00,836
to emerging operational requirements 

1355
00:54:01,340 --> 00:54:03,062
and to our ability to make the 

1356
00:54:03,062 --> 00:54:05,530
necessary funding decisions required to 

1357
00:54:05,530 --> 00:54:08,940
modernize our force . The army strongly 

1358
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:12,060
urges Congress to pass all fy 22 

1359
00:54:12,060 --> 00:54:14,460
appropriation bills to avoid the 

1360
00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:17,700
complex and undesirable effects of a 

1361
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:20,620
yearlong cr Again , thank you for 

1362
00:54:20,620 --> 00:54:22,787
allowing me the opportunity to testify 

1363
00:54:22,787 --> 00:54:24,953
before you today and I look forward to 

1364
00:54:24,953 --> 00:54:27,180
answer your questions . Thank you so 

1365
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:29,990
much . General martin and thank you for 

1366
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,940
for stepping in . Um , once again , I 

1367
00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:34,890
just want to reiterate , I truly 

1368
00:54:34,890 --> 00:54:37,970
believe it is the wish the desire 

1369
00:54:38,340 --> 00:54:41,940
the the commitment from our entire 

1370
00:54:41,940 --> 00:54:44,450
committee both sides of the aisle not 

1371
00:54:44,450 --> 00:54:46,660
to have a yearlong cr and to get our 

1372
00:54:46,660 --> 00:54:49,900
job done before we turn to other member 

1373
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:51,956
questions . I want to enter into the 

1374
00:54:51,956 --> 00:54:53,956
record secretary Austin's statement 

1375
00:54:53,956 --> 00:54:56,122
from december as well as a letter from 

1376
00:54:56,122 --> 00:54:58,090
several defense trade groups , a 

1377
00:54:58,090 --> 00:55:00,201
statement from the Aerospace Industry 

1378
00:55:00,201 --> 00:55:01,979
Association , a letter from the 

1379
00:55:01,979 --> 00:55:04,500
National Defense Industrial Association 

1380
00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:08,200
on the harmful impacts a full year C . 

1381
00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:11,050
R . Would have on our national security . 

1382
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,200
So without objection those letters will 

1383
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,144
be entered . Now I'm gonna turn to 

1384
00:55:16,144 --> 00:55:19,530
questions and um as has been the custom 

1385
00:55:19,530 --> 00:55:22,310
and usage um the ranking member and I 

1386
00:55:22,310 --> 00:55:24,532
sometimes go a little over five minutes 

1387
00:55:24,532 --> 00:55:27,450
so we haven't had a timer on but I do 

1388
00:55:27,450 --> 00:55:30,800
have the timer running on my uh my 

1389
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,740
iphone . So I don't uh abuse of the 

1390
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:36,970
opportunity that our other community 

1391
00:55:36,970 --> 00:55:39,840
members have given . Um mr calvert and 

1392
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,190
I and I'm going to extend that same 

1393
00:55:42,190 --> 00:55:45,530
courtesy to um the full committee chair 

1394
00:55:45,540 --> 00:55:47,960
and to um the full committee ranking 

1395
00:55:47,970 --> 00:55:50,590
member when we start with questions . 

1396
00:55:50,590 --> 00:55:54,500
So I'm going to start first . And uh 

1397
00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:56,590
the top line of a full cr would 

1398
00:55:56,590 --> 00:55:58,720
technically stay the same as has been 

1399
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:00,920
pointed out but things like pay raises 

1400
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,820
and inflation As long with funds that 

1401
00:56:03,820 --> 00:56:06,480
simply could not be spent in 2022 . 

1402
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Such as $3 billion Afghan security 

1403
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,767
forces . Mean that d . o . d . and the 

1404
00:56:11,767 --> 00:56:13,378
services would actually face 

1405
00:56:13,378 --> 00:56:15,350
substantial cuts from 

1406
00:56:15,930 --> 00:56:19,390
Uh 2021-2022 . 

1407
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,511
And you've had that in your testimony 

1408
00:56:21,511 --> 00:56:23,511
but I just want to reiterate it . A 

1409
00:56:23,511 --> 00:56:26,090
full year long cr is a cut and none of 

1410
00:56:26,090 --> 00:56:28,860
us on this subcommittee want that to 

1411
00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:30,960
happen in such a callous way . 

1412
00:56:31,630 --> 00:56:33,630
Additionally , the department would 

1413
00:56:33,630 --> 00:56:35,852
lose out on a substantial increase that 

1414
00:56:35,852 --> 00:56:37,797
would be negotiated by a full year 

1415
00:56:37,797 --> 00:56:40,480
omnibus bill . And I believe we would 

1416
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,647
have a bill that we would all be proud 

1417
00:56:42,647 --> 00:56:44,813
of and would serve the service as well 

1418
00:56:44,813 --> 00:56:46,813
under Secretary McCord . Or I would 

1419
00:56:46,813 --> 00:56:48,924
like to ask you , does the department 

1420
00:56:48,924 --> 00:56:51,036
have an estimate as to how much funny 

1421
00:56:51,036 --> 00:56:53,202
would essentially be lost under a full 

1422
00:56:53,202 --> 00:56:55,424
year Cr due to cost increases and funds 

1423
00:56:55,424 --> 00:56:56,869
that would not be spent . 

1424
00:57:00,430 --> 00:57:03,950
Okay . We would estimate that the 

1425
00:57:03,950 --> 00:57:06,380
lost purchasing power is more on the 

1426
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:09,760
order of triple the a billion dollars 

1427
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:12,970
account level . Only for the reasons 

1428
00:57:12,970 --> 00:57:15,303
that you cite the military construction , 

1429
00:57:15,303 --> 00:57:17,470
the Afghanistan other other funds that 

1430
00:57:17,470 --> 00:57:19,470
some of the other witnesses have to 

1431
00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:21,581
have included in their testimony that 

1432
00:57:21,581 --> 00:57:23,692
that are estimated to be misaligned . 

1433
00:57:23,692 --> 00:57:25,803
It is very difficult to get a precise 

1434
00:57:25,803 --> 00:57:25,520
number because you have to go down to a 

1435
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,910
program level all across the department 

1436
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,910
but at the , at the More 

1437
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:33,910
general level , about triple the $8 

1438
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:37,330
billion dollars thank you Generals and 

1439
00:57:37,330 --> 00:57:39,052
admirals . And in some of your 

1440
00:57:39,052 --> 00:57:42,040
testimony , you mentioned how this 

1441
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,390
would uh really affect modernization 

1442
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,671
and our capabilities vis a vis Russia 

1443
00:57:47,671 --> 00:57:50,150
and China as well as our inability to 

1444
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:52,372
reduce funding for weapons systems that 

1445
00:57:52,372 --> 00:57:54,539
you would prefer to ramp down spending 

1446
00:57:54,539 --> 00:57:58,000
on 2022 . Would any of you like to take 

1447
00:57:58,010 --> 00:58:01,000
another minute to either re emphasize 

1448
00:58:01,010 --> 00:58:02,954
or add to your testimony on that ? 

1449
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,720
This is General martin , Vice Chief 

1450
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,776
Staff of the Army . I'll be happy to 

1451
00:58:13,220 --> 00:58:17,200
placer specifically as it pertains to 

1452
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,520
modernization . A yearlong cr would 

1453
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,742
delay modernization to counter Russia , 

1454
00:58:21,742 --> 00:58:23,853
china , persistent threats and impact 

1455
00:58:23,853 --> 00:58:25,780
our industry partners and delay 

1456
00:58:25,780 --> 00:58:28,430
modernizing our industrial facilities . 

1457
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,551
There's there's there's 2nd 3rd order 

1458
00:58:30,551 --> 00:58:32,496
effects when you talk about supply 

1459
00:58:32,496 --> 00:58:34,551
chains and everything else . But for 

1460
00:58:34,551 --> 00:58:36,710
new starts We have 71 programs that 

1461
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:39,680
will be affected by a yearlong cr for 

1462
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,780
procurement delays . We have 29 And 

1463
00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:44,780
then developmental days procurement 

1464
00:58:44,780 --> 00:58:46,891
delays , those are equipped equipment 

1465
00:58:46,891 --> 00:58:48,891
that we planned on procuring uh and 

1466
00:58:48,891 --> 00:58:50,947
then developmental delays . Research 

1467
00:58:50,947 --> 00:58:53,058
and development activities associated 

1468
00:58:53,058 --> 00:58:55,113
with programs . There's 32 of them . 

1469
00:58:55,113 --> 00:58:57,510
Additionally , there's an impact to the 

1470
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:59,840
army owned industrial facilities where 

1471
00:58:59,850 --> 00:59:01,890
we had planned on modernizing our 

1472
00:59:01,890 --> 00:59:04,410
organic industrial basis part of a 15 

1473
00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:07,860
year plan . Uh And those activities for 

1474
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:10,650
this year would not be able to happen 

1475
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,831
and would subsequently be delayed and 

1476
00:59:12,831 --> 00:59:14,998
so that would be deferred work . But I 

1477
00:59:14,998 --> 00:59:16,942
tell you it's a compounding effect 

1478
00:59:16,942 --> 00:59:20,440
because chair , we also would have to 

1479
00:59:20,450 --> 00:59:23,180
uh next year Reprioritize those 

1480
00:59:23,180 --> 00:59:25,347
projects , which means that they could 

1481
00:59:25,347 --> 00:59:27,458
potentially bump another project . So 

1482
00:59:27,458 --> 00:59:29,402
it's almost a double effect on the 

1483
00:59:29,402 --> 00:59:31,624
industrial base . And for that matter , 

1484
00:59:31,624 --> 00:59:33,736
all those programs that I described . 

1485
00:59:33,736 --> 00:59:35,958
Thank you . Thank you . Is there anyone 

1486
00:59:35,958 --> 00:59:37,902
else who briefly would like to add 

1487
00:59:37,902 --> 00:59:37,790
something ? We do have your full 

1488
00:59:37,790 --> 00:59:39,901
testimony or you can submit something 

1489
00:59:39,901 --> 00:59:42,240
for the record ? Later . Chairman 

1490
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,950
commandant General Brown . Um we have 

1491
00:59:44,950 --> 00:59:47,172
78 new starts for the Air Force , but I 

1492
00:59:47,172 --> 00:59:49,228
would highlight particularly nuclear 

1493
00:59:49,228 --> 00:59:51,394
portfolio , each of the key aspects to 

1494
00:59:51,394 --> 00:59:55,000
G . B . S . D . L . R . So um B 

1495
00:59:55,010 --> 00:59:58,290
21 will be delayed anywhere from a year 

1496
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:00,930
up to 24 months . I would also add our 

1497
01:00:00,930 --> 01:00:03,152
next generation of balance with delayed 

1498
01:00:03,152 --> 01:00:05,319
by about two years , but also impacted 

1499
01:00:05,319 --> 01:00:08,960
35 by a year . And so it's uh it has a 

1500
01:00:08,970 --> 01:00:11,192
compounding impact just as General Mark 

1501
01:00:11,192 --> 01:00:13,303
described , not just to us , but also 

1502
01:00:13,303 --> 01:00:14,970
when you think about what our 

1503
01:00:14,970 --> 01:00:16,859
adversaries doing and how they're 

1504
01:00:16,859 --> 01:00:18,859
pacing out , it's important that we 

1505
01:00:18,859 --> 01:00:22,570
stay on track . Thank you . Um and as 

1506
01:00:22,580 --> 01:00:25,270
mr McCord pointed out all these delays , 

1507
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:28,730
land up , making things cost more 

1508
01:00:29,110 --> 01:00:31,040
and it's an inefficient use of 

1509
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,010
taxpayers dollars . Um I'm going to um 

1510
01:00:35,020 --> 01:00:37,390
move on to the president's pay proposal , 

1511
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,120
the 2.7% for all military personnel 

1512
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,430
that went into effect on January one . 

1513
01:00:43,810 --> 01:00:46,490
The cost of the pay increase across the 

1514
01:00:46,490 --> 01:00:50,230
services is more than $2 billion 2022 . 

1515
01:00:50,810 --> 01:00:53,570
And the military pay raises and uh is 

1516
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:55,691
automatically went into effect at the 

1517
01:00:55,691 --> 01:00:57,858
start of the calendar year . But under 

1518
01:00:57,858 --> 01:00:59,858
a full continuing resolution is not 

1519
01:00:59,858 --> 01:01:02,024
budgeted for . But for the record . Um 

1520
01:01:02,024 --> 01:01:04,250
both both both democrats and 

1521
01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:07,130
republicans on this subcommittee fully 

1522
01:01:07,130 --> 01:01:10,330
support . And we have in um in my bill , 

1523
01:01:10,410 --> 01:01:14,250
ah the cost uh covered for 

1524
01:01:14,250 --> 01:01:17,830
the bill for the pay raise . 

1525
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,050
Um could you speak briefly to 

1526
01:01:21,060 --> 01:01:24,900
what the military uh pay raise by by 

1527
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:27,750
doing that how that's going to really 

1528
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:30,030
impact you under a full year ? Because 

1529
01:01:30,030 --> 01:01:32,030
not only some of you mentioned that 

1530
01:01:32,030 --> 01:01:34,086
they're going to get the raise , but 

1531
01:01:34,086 --> 01:01:36,308
the other things that go along with the 

1532
01:01:36,308 --> 01:01:38,530
job that they're looking forward to are 

1533
01:01:38,530 --> 01:01:40,641
going to be delayed because of the cr 

1534
01:01:40,641 --> 01:01:42,630
and how that would affect um 

1535
01:01:43,710 --> 01:01:46,030
recruitment and retention , which as 

1536
01:01:46,030 --> 01:01:48,086
was pointed out by general burger is 

1537
01:01:48,086 --> 01:01:50,520
very important to an all voluntary army 

1538
01:01:53,310 --> 01:01:55,143
chair . Let me just make a brief 

1539
01:01:55,143 --> 01:01:57,366
comment that because of this problem is 

1540
01:01:57,366 --> 01:01:59,588
pretty consistent across the services . 

1541
01:01:59,588 --> 01:02:01,588
Before I ask them to comment in any 

1542
01:02:01,588 --> 01:02:03,699
other detail . Exactly as you state , 

1543
01:02:03,699 --> 01:02:05,990
the the by definition under a cr , the 

1544
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:08,046
amount and the personnel accounts is 

1545
01:02:08,046 --> 01:02:10,300
flat and so the pay raise costs have to 

1546
01:02:10,300 --> 01:02:12,560
be absorbed . The accounts themselves 

1547
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,620
are are flexible , but that doesn't 

1548
01:02:15,620 --> 01:02:17,731
mean that we have good choices within 

1549
01:02:17,731 --> 01:02:19,898
that flexibility . We're going to have 

1550
01:02:19,898 --> 01:02:21,842
to look at accessions as have been 

1551
01:02:21,842 --> 01:02:24,009
mentioned and Pcs moves for our troops 

1552
01:02:24,009 --> 01:02:25,787
is probably the first and least 

1553
01:02:25,787 --> 01:02:27,787
disruptive things we could do . And 

1554
01:02:27,787 --> 01:02:30,064
then some of the chiefs have mentioned . 

1555
01:02:30,064 --> 01:02:29,630
There's other things that might be the 

1556
01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:31,852
next things that we have to do that are 

1557
01:02:31,852 --> 01:02:34,470
more distasteful the the bonuses . But 

1558
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:36,692
again , within a flat account , we have 

1559
01:02:36,692 --> 01:02:38,581
to do something within within the 

1560
01:02:38,581 --> 01:02:40,692
personal accounts to absorb costs and 

1561
01:02:40,692 --> 01:02:42,803
and find some other way to save money 

1562
01:02:42,803 --> 01:02:44,526
and that's going to have to be 

1563
01:02:44,526 --> 01:02:46,637
impacting our troops in another way . 

1564
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:48,900
Thank you . If any of you other 

1565
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:51,011
gentlemen would like to add something 

1566
01:02:51,011 --> 01:02:53,820
that's fine . Other than that , Yes , 

1567
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,450
did somebody wish to be recognized ? Um 

1568
01:02:57,460 --> 01:02:59,349
Chairman column ? This is General 

1569
01:02:59,349 --> 01:03:03,120
Raymond . Raymond and one of the one of 

1570
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,730
the biggest benefits that we realized 

1571
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:08,411
after establishing the space force is 

1572
01:03:08,411 --> 01:03:10,300
our ability to attract incredible 

1573
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:12,578
talent . This town is highly technical , 

1574
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:15,020
it's highly educated and it's shot 

1575
01:03:15,020 --> 01:03:18,350
after and they have other options . And 

1576
01:03:18,350 --> 01:03:20,770
if we enter into this delay and have to 

1577
01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:23,310
do to reduce the sessions and put 

1578
01:03:23,310 --> 01:03:25,532
hiring freezes in place to help pay for 

1579
01:03:25,532 --> 01:03:29,080
the much needed and 

1580
01:03:29,090 --> 01:03:31,260
deserved pay raise , they're going to 

1581
01:03:31,260 --> 01:03:33,371
go to other places and that those are 

1582
01:03:33,371 --> 01:03:35,538
people that we will not be able to get 

1583
01:03:35,538 --> 01:03:37,760
back . So to do that , we're gonna have 

1584
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:37,620
to come up with ways is to just discuss 

1585
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,889
putting hiring freezes in place , 

1586
01:03:39,889 --> 01:03:41,833
potentially reducing assessments , 

1587
01:03:41,833 --> 01:03:44,120
cutting Pcs travel . It's gonna impact 

1588
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,360
not just the guardians , but also their 

1589
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:49,800
families . Thank you . Thank you . And 

1590
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,670
I think you all did a great job of of 

1591
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,840
mentioning that with that . I am going 

1592
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,340
to uh turn it over to um ranking member 

1593
01:03:59,340 --> 01:04:02,240
calvert with the notion that I had , I 

1594
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,120
was six minutes and uh well I'm gonna 

1595
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,342
round up I was about seven minutes . So 

1596
01:04:08,342 --> 01:04:10,610
that that's going to be the max for um 

1597
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:13,780
For the next three speak questionnaires . 

1598
01:04:13,850 --> 01:04:16,520
Mr Calvert . Thank you madam chair . 

1599
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,690
And for the record , I'd like to say 

1600
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:20,523
that B . C . A . Was certainly a 

1601
01:04:20,523 --> 01:04:22,801
disaster for the Department of Defense . 

1602
01:04:22,801 --> 01:04:25,170
And to no one wants to see R . I know 

1603
01:04:25,170 --> 01:04:28,290
you don't I don't most responsible 

1604
01:04:28,290 --> 01:04:31,320
people don't And we all want to get 

1605
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,380
this done by February 18 . I think 

1606
01:04:33,380 --> 01:04:35,480
that's uh I think that at the very 

1607
01:04:35,490 --> 01:04:38,220
latest we need to get this done . So 

1608
01:04:38,590 --> 01:04:40,812
I'm gonna emphasize again , let's strip 

1609
01:04:40,812 --> 01:04:42,757
these poison pills , let's put the 

1610
01:04:42,757 --> 01:04:44,812
legacy riders back in and let's just 

1611
01:04:44,812 --> 01:04:46,701
talk about numbers higher defense 

1612
01:04:46,701 --> 01:04:48,868
number lower non defense discretionary 

1613
01:04:48,868 --> 01:04:51,090
account . Let me define pay raise as we 

1614
01:04:51,090 --> 01:04:53,090
talk about that . Obviously the pay 

1615
01:04:53,090 --> 01:04:55,700
raise that we're anticipating is really 

1616
01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:57,700
a down payment on inflation because 

1617
01:04:57,700 --> 01:04:59,811
let's , let's , Let's face it , we're 

1618
01:04:59,811 --> 01:05:01,978
not keeping pace with inflation with a 

1619
01:05:01,978 --> 01:05:04,200
7% inflation rate and rising . We may 

1620
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,130
end up with 8-10% inflation in the next 

1621
01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:09,084
in the next year according to some 

1622
01:05:09,084 --> 01:05:11,890
economists . Um So let me get to what's 

1623
01:05:11,890 --> 01:05:14,168
happening to the home defense spending . 

1624
01:05:14,168 --> 01:05:17,040
It's no secret this hearing is is 

1625
01:05:17,050 --> 01:05:19,350
obviously an unclassified level . It's 

1626
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,620
broadcast on the internet . There's no 

1627
01:05:21,620 --> 01:05:24,000
doubt that our enemies are watching at 

1628
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,030
the present time . While we are frozen 

1629
01:05:27,030 --> 01:05:29,070
unable to properly provide for our 

1630
01:05:29,070 --> 01:05:31,520
nation's defense . Our adversaries are 

1631
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,020
planning to react accordingly . Admiral 

1632
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:36,440
Gilda . Please give this committee your 

1633
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,390
assessment a probable chinese activity 

1634
01:05:39,390 --> 01:05:42,020
regarding Taiwan over the next year and 

1635
01:05:42,020 --> 01:05:44,076
what an invasion of the island would 

1636
01:05:44,076 --> 01:05:46,298
mean for the for America and its allies 

1637
01:05:48,890 --> 01:05:51,112
ranking member calvert . Thank you . So 

1638
01:05:51,112 --> 01:05:53,770
I mentioned up front my comments that 

1639
01:05:53,780 --> 01:05:55,891
what the cr does , what the cR yields 

1640
01:05:55,891 --> 01:05:57,891
for the nation is a smaller or less 

1641
01:05:57,891 --> 01:06:00,660
ready , less capable , less lethal navy . 

1642
01:06:00,670 --> 01:06:02,726
We need to be forward to matter . We 

1643
01:06:02,726 --> 01:06:04,892
need to be in the way to matter . That 

1644
01:06:04,892 --> 01:06:06,837
means we need to be in the western 

1645
01:06:06,837 --> 01:06:08,781
pacific and we need to be there in 

1646
01:06:08,781 --> 01:06:10,837
numbers and so being able to sustain 

1647
01:06:10,837 --> 01:06:12,614
the numbers that the indo pacom 

1648
01:06:12,614 --> 01:06:14,837
commander needs in a day to day basis . 

1649
01:06:14,837 --> 01:06:17,003
Both Navy and marine forces as well as 

1650
01:06:17,003 --> 01:06:18,892
the other services is going to be 

1651
01:06:18,892 --> 01:06:21,059
challenged by cuts to our operations , 

1652
01:06:21,059 --> 01:06:23,170
operations and maintenance accounts . 

1653
01:06:23,170 --> 01:06:25,226
I'd also say that there is some risk 

1654
01:06:25,226 --> 01:06:27,059
there . When we talk about . For 

1655
01:06:27,059 --> 01:06:29,003
example , one of the chiefs talked 

1656
01:06:29,003 --> 01:06:31,059
about uh cuts of flying hours . With 

1657
01:06:31,059 --> 01:06:33,226
that usually comes an increase in this 

1658
01:06:33,226 --> 01:06:36,180
apparatus . So the less you train , the 

1659
01:06:36,190 --> 01:06:38,930
more likely you are to make mistakes . 

1660
01:06:38,940 --> 01:06:41,470
And so there's a uh compounding 

1661
01:06:41,470 --> 01:06:43,637
problems here that we're gonna have to 

1662
01:06:43,637 --> 01:06:45,859
deal with . But I think um you know , I 

1663
01:06:45,859 --> 01:06:47,914
also talked about the fact that this 

1664
01:06:47,914 --> 01:06:50,026
makes us uh , a less credible prevent 

1665
01:06:50,026 --> 01:06:52,570
presents a less credible deterrent to 

1666
01:06:52,570 --> 01:06:55,180
any type of opportunistic behavior by 

1667
01:06:55,180 --> 01:06:57,236
Russia and china . And it's not just 

1668
01:06:57,236 --> 01:06:59,430
china in the south china sea in the 

1669
01:06:59,430 --> 01:07:01,940
Taiwan strait , but we just have to 

1670
01:07:01,950 --> 01:07:04,270
look east right now to what's going on 

1671
01:07:04,270 --> 01:07:07,300
on the Russia , Russia Ukrainian border 

1672
01:07:07,580 --> 01:07:10,380
uh , and the potential for for 

1673
01:07:10,380 --> 01:07:12,436
significant activity there as well . 

1674
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,510
Yeah , I was glad you brought that up . 

1675
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:17,510
Admiral . I I was gonna ask General 

1676
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:19,343
Martin to give the committee his 

1677
01:07:19,343 --> 01:07:21,566
assessment on probable Russian activity 

1678
01:07:21,566 --> 01:07:23,788
regarding the Ukraine over the next few 

1679
01:07:23,788 --> 01:07:26,010
months . And what further invasion into 

1680
01:07:26,010 --> 01:07:27,843
the country would mean again for 

1681
01:07:27,843 --> 01:07:30,066
America and its allies , especially the 

1682
01:07:30,066 --> 01:07:32,288
first ground war since the end of World 

1683
01:07:32,288 --> 01:07:32,490
War two .